I'm Putting It Out There

[EMS]

I don't know what you've been watching, to give you this type of opinion but it would be great if you watched some more modern type farming programmes....for example

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10541088/

, which has a little humour in it because he's a bungling buffoon and it also shows you the real world costs and issues farmers have to deal with all the time. When we die...we either get eaten by a furnace or bugs...oh and we are also kept in small spaces, not always clean thanks to people and dustbin lorries that don't catch everything. A great deal of the pig is actually used up.....so ear, snout and feet usually go to making dog treats, humans eat liver, chops, bacon, hocks, brain and I'm sure eyes etc are used for something too

 

[zaferali]

Pigs trotters (feet) are eaten by humans and farmers do have a difficult time depending on the weather which is unpredictable, so having the hens and animals indoors in buildings about 100 mt long where hens live? with a light continuously burning so they eat more and lay more eggs and get fatter and earn more money and the same goes for cows their conditions are automated , milk maids with buckets are things of the past, as for sheep, they are still left to walk around the village green or moors, pigs are still in their pens producing a lot of little piglets,

 

[EMS]

You're talking about battery hens etc.....we don't have many of those left because of the laws....if any left at all. I always eat free range which means its never locked up like you are describing. When you don't have experience and knowledge of the farming in another country, it is always either good to go away a do some research or hush up and just ask questions rather than throw out your opinion like its fact

All the farms around here are all free range, the sheep, the cows, the chickens, goats....all of them have fields and fields to munch on. When I was a child I used to go to my local farm most weekends and we would be doing alsorts, from shooting rats to feeding the cows to having a cube or two of unpasteurised milk. We helped in the milking shed etc etc All free range, even back then in the 70s. I drive passed farms all the time...all free range no battery hens, no pigs stuck in a pen etc and the farmers move them between fields because the fields get fertilised by the animals. Most farms still practice field rotation on crops or plant crops that will not extract all the goodness.

 

[Weaserlorian]

Mmmmmm..... bacon....

 

[zaferali]

You're talking about battery hens etc.....we don't have many of those left because of the laws....if any left at all. I always eat free range which means its never locked up like you are describing. When you don't have experience and knowledge of the farming in another country, it is always either good to go away a do some research or hush up and just ask questions rather than throw out your opinion like its fact

I was born in a farming community (in the UK) , a small market town with farms and forests all around it and they used to use horses to pull the plows, threshing machines used to come to thresh the corn, I know what it was and I know what it is going to be, farmers find it difficult as they have so many expenses to cover for a small area. Pig farms are in as every one is cheap to run and more money to be made as more people eat the products, hamburgers ?

 

[EMS]

Then you should know better....battery hens should be gone. "A hamburger, or simply burger, is a food consisting of fillings—usually a patty of ground meat, typically beef" - not pork, despite the name begins with HAM which actually is about pork not beef. Our farming is far stricter than say the US in terms of hygiene...for example bleached chicken. Almost all of the cattle and sheep are pumped full of roids and anti biotics, which gets passed down to the humans through consumption, leading to an issue with finding anti biotics that work on a person. This is unacceptable practice and the FDA have done nothing about any of it (last I heard).

You are describing a time so much earlier than the 70s and since then farming has evolved a damn sight more than you "recollect" of what it was like back then. If you want to blame anyone for this mess....blame yourself, just like everyone else should do. Humans are outgrowing the resources causing companies to cut as many corners as they possibly can and then swear the peg is still square.

 

[DammagedAgain]

Then you should know better....battery hens should be gone. "A hamburger, or simply burger, is a food consisting of fillings—usually a patty of ground meat, typically beef" - not pork, despite the name begins with HAM which actually is about pork not beef. Our farming is far stricter than say the US in terms of hygiene...for example bleached chicken. Almost all of the cattle and sheep are pumped full of roids and anti biotics, which gets passed down to the humans through consumption, leading to an issue with finding anti biotics that work on a person. This is unacceptable practice and the FDA have done nothing about any of it (last I heard).

You are describing a time so much earlier than the 70s and since then farming has evolved a damn sight more than you "recollect" of what it was like back then. If you want to blame anyone for this mess....blame yourself, just like everyone else should do. Humans are outgrowing the resources causing companies to cut as many corners as they possibly can and then swear the peg is still square.

Well if you're concerned about additives such as steroids, antibiotics and expense of the cattle/pork/chicken Industry, Italy seems to be going in a direction that doesn't require those and there's No Farting involved like the 4 legged animals so is good for the Environment.

Welcome to the "World of Cricket Farming!" (And for Wease, No Bacon Grease!")
Might want to go FULL SCREEN so you don't miss a delicious moment!

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In a small room near the Alps in northern Italy, containers filled with millions of crickets are stacked on top of each other.

Jumping and chirping loudly - these crickets are about to become food.

The process is simple: they are frozen, boiled, dried, and then pulverized.

Here at the Italian Cricket Farm, the biggest insect farm in the country, about one million crickets are turned into food ingredients every day.

Ivan Albano, who runs the farm, opens a container to reveal a light brown flour that can be used in the production of pasta, bread, pancakes, energy bars - and even sports drinks.

Eating crickets, ants and worms has been common in parts of the world like Asia for thousands of years.

Now, after the EU approved the sale of insects for human consumption earlier this year, will there be a shift in attitudes across Europe?

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Well, nowhere in Europe is there more resistance to eating insects than in Italy, according to data from the global public opinion company YouGov, and the objections come right from the top - the government has already taken steps to ban their use in pizza and pasta production.

"We will oppose, by any means and in any place, this madness that would impoverish our agriculture and our culture," Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini wrote on Facebook.

But is that all about to change? Several Italian producers have been perfecting cricket pasta, pizza and snacks.

"What we do here is very sustainable," says Ivan. "To produce one kilo of cricket powder, we only use about 12 litres of water," he adds, pointing out that producing the same quantity of protein from cows requires thousands of litres of water.

Farming insects also requires just a fraction of the land used to produce meat. Given the pollution caused by the meat and dairy industry, more and more scientists believe insects could be key to tackling climate change.

At a restaurant near Turin, chef Simone Loddo has adapted his fresh pasta recipe, which dates back nearly 1,000 years - the dough is now 15% cricket powder.

It emanates a strong, nutty smell.

Some of the diners refuse to try the cricket tagliatelle, but those who do - including me - are surprised at how good it tastes.

Diners at the Turin restaurant that serves the insect pasta are trying cricket-based products out of curiosity.
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Aside from the taste, cricket powder is a superfood packed with vitamins, fibre, minerals and amino acids. One plate contains higher sources of iron and magnesium, for example, than a regular sirloin steak.

But is this a realistic option for those who want to eat less meat? The main issue is the price.

"If you want to buy cricket-based food, it's going to cost you," says Ivan. "Cricket flour is a luxury product. It costs about €60 (£52) per kilogram. If you take cricket pasta for example, one pack can cost up to €8."

That's up to eight times more than regular pasta at the supermarket.

For now, insect food remains a niche option in Western societies, as farmers can sell poultry and beef at lower prices.

Cricket tagliatelle served with zucchini, zucchini cream, crispy bacon, parmesan and basil
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"The meat I produce is much cheaper than cricket flour, and it's very good quality," says Claudio Lauteri, who owns a farm near Rome that's been in his family for four generations.

But it's not just about price. It's about social acceptance.

Across Italy, the number of people living to the age of 100 and beyond is rising fast. Many point to the Mediterranean diet as the Holy Grail for a healthy lifestyle.

"Italians have been eating meat for centuries. With moderation, it's definitely healthy," says Claudio.

He believes that insect food could be a threat to Italian culinary tradition - which is something universally sacred in this country.

"These products are garbage," he says. "We are not used to them, they are not part of the Mediterranean diet. And they could be a threat for people: we don't know what eating insects can do to our bodies.​

"I'm absolutely against these new food products. I refuse to eat them."

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While insect farming is increasing in Europe, so too is hostility towards the idea.

The EU decision to approve insects for human consumption was described by a member of Italy's ruling far-right Brothers of Italy party as "bordering on madness".

Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, who has referred to Italy as a "food superpower", created a Made in Italy ministry when she was elected, with the aim of safeguarding tradition.

"Insect products are arriving on supermarket shelves! Flour, larvae - good, delicious," she said in a tone of disgust in a video.

Chef Simone Loddo makes pasta using flour containing crickets to serve to customers at his restaurant near Turin​

In Poland, it has become a hot topic ahead of an election this year. In March, politicians from the two main parties accused each other of introducing policies that would force citizens to eat insects - the leader of the main opposition party, Donald Tusk, labelled the government a "promoter of worm soup".

Meanwhile, Austria, Belgium and the Netherlands are more receptive to eating insects. In Austria, they eat dried insects for aperitivo, and Belgians are open to eating mealworms in energy shakes and bars, burgers and soups.

"The impact on the environment is almost zero. We are a piece of the puzzle that could save the planet."
More "CRICKETS AT LINK" (SKIP THE BACON)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66022857

 

[EMS]

Oh dear oh dear....you don't really know what's happening do you? WEF (World Economic Forum) A think tank. This is all their doing, they are the ones that want us to eat bugs, the eu agreed it because they are followers of WEF ideology. This isn't all they are doing, they are taking away our freedom to travel, in fact they want all the cars off the road apart from those that can afford it...i.e. the 1%, they want to take away everything we own and force us to lease/rent items like washing machines, tvs, etc etc.

With regards to the BBC....they can go and suck donkey ck. They have been spreading misinformation for years, they have been protecting kiddy fiddlers for years and they have turned the tv into their own personal crusade against....brexit, right wing politics, making out that minorities are actually the majority etc etc etc Don't trust anything they say....you just can't

 

[DammagedAgain]

Oh dear oh dear....you don't really know what's happening do you?

With regards to the BBC....they can go and suck donkey ck. They have been spreading misinformation for years, they have been protecting kiddy fiddlers for years and they have turned the tv into their own personal crusade against....brexit, right wing politics, making out that minorities are actually the majority etc etc etc Don't trust anything they say....you just can't

Seems to be a little more than a twisted BBC Conspiracy/Agenda!
Seems to be spreading.

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The European Commission gave the green light to sell of larvae in powder and other forms - a decision that has caused quite a stir on social media.

Would you swap meat for insects?

House crickets and larvae might soon arrive in your local supermarket.

In January, the *European Union approved the sale of these insects for human consumption in powder and other dried forms.​

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It's good news for the planet, as protein-rich insects require considerably less land and water than meat to produce.

“The consumption of insects … contributes positively to the environment and to health and livelihoods," an EU commission statement reads.

Here's everything you need to know to start cooking with critters.

Does eating insects help the environment?
It might be novel to many Europeans, but eating insects is actually very common - nearly 2 billion people consume bugs on a regular basis.

Farming insects is a lower carbon alternative than producing meat; cricket farming, for example, uses 75 per cent less CO2 than chicken farms.

It will also help to conserve resources. Research by the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) shows that crickets require six times less feed than cattle to create the same amount of protein.

Farming livestock produces huge quantities of greenhouse gases.​

Will food containing insects be clearly labelled?
Despite the environmental benefits, not everyone is pleased with the EU's new insect approval.

In France, right-wing politician Laurent Duplomb slammed the EU’s decision saying: “We cannot let the French eat insects without their knowledge.”

This concern stems from the mistaken idea that the EU will not require insects to be clearly labelled when they are mixed with other ingredients such as flour.

This is not the case. The fine print requires that the cricket powder be clearly labelled.

The packaging must also state that the "ingredient may cause allergic reactions to consumers with known allergies to crustaceans, molluscs, and to dust mites."

This statement "shall appear in close proximity to the list of ingredients" - so you'll be able to tell if insect powder has been added to your favourite biscuits or cereal.

A European Commission spokesperson confirmed this via email to Euronews saying: "Mandatory food information must be available for both prepacked and non-prepacked foods. The indication of allergens is mandatory and must be provided to consumers where foods are offered for sale prepacked or without pre-packaging."

Which European countries are most willing to eat insects?

But the thought of eating creepy crawlies is not everyone’s cup of tea and many in Europe would need a lot of convincing to add them to their diet.

According to a 2020 report by the European Consumer Organization, only 10 percent of Europeans are willing to swap meat for insects.

But in another poll conducted by YouGov in 2021, France seems to be the country that’s the most receptive to the idea.

Twenty five percent of the people surveyed said they’re willing to eat food which contains insect powder.

Germany and Denmark also narrowly suit with 24 and 22 percent respectively.

Italy and Poland were the most resistant to the idea with only 17 and 18 percent of respondents saying they’d be willing to try eating insects on a regular basis.

But with the issue of our planet’s growing population as well as the pollution caused by the meat and dairy industry, more and more scientists believe that insects could be the key to curbing climate change.

According to the UN, the meat and dairy industry accounts for 14.5% of global greenhouse gas emissions.

Eight more applications for other edible insects are still awaiting approval by the European Commission.


The approval isn't groundbreaking - the EU already approved two other insects for human consumption a few years ago.
This Site:

https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/02/02/fact-check-is-the-eu-really-going-to-force-us-to-eat-insects-without-our-knowledge

*European Union Approval to feed you bugs:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX%3A32023R0005&from=EN

A Round of BUGS FOR THE HOUSE?

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[zaferali]

People can be duped into eating or drinking any thing believing it is natural and healthy, they do not complain if they enjoy the taste or even the smell and how it is prepared, crispy bacon will be around for many years to come, as for hamburgers ,there are beefburgers and fish burgers. Over the years a cow is still a cow ,the only change is the way they are bred and looked after.

 

[EMS]

People can be duped into eating or drinking any thing believing it is natural and healthy, they do not complain if they enjoy the taste or even the smell and how it is prepared, crispy bacon will be around for many years to come, as for hamburgers ,there are beefburgers and fish burgers. Over the years a cow is still a cow ,the only change is the way they are bred and looked after.

I don't think you understand.....the dutch government have been closing farms down because they have cattle. It has been suggested something happens over here on the same issue....methane from cows..but they aren't the worst offender....peat bogs, methane from under the sea bubbling up. Methane isn't the issue, they are using that as an excuse to cull millions of cattle.

The EU have give permission for some places to use bugs for food, its not the EU that is forcing everyone down this road...its WEF! WEF founder, Schwab who happens to be a son of a nazi, is leading this charge with the backing from EU and the UN, they are also in partnership with the International Energy Agency...and that's not good either.

 

[EMS]

With regard to the BBC as I said...full of sht but many many people believe what MSM tell them. I say go out and do your own research. Stop watching MSM and its political motivated agenda

 

[DammagedAgain]

With regard to the BBC as I said...full of sht but many many people believe what MSM tell them. I say go out and do your own research. Stop watching MSM and its political motivated agenda

NEWS sites are no longer News, they have evolved into ADULT Entertainment Media that each attracts a certain flock of sheep that believe what they're pushing/preaching. (Including TV/Radio Broadcasts)

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[EMS]

People have become conditioned over the years of listening to lies to keep us in line. Unfortunately, some of us aren't so conditioned.....some parts of the country are pushing ultra low emission zones, pedestrianisation, bus gates and now pay per mile...which we do when we put fuel in our vehicles. After pay per mile and cameras everywhere watching where you go all the time. There are cameras being tested on the roads and they can see into the cabin of the vehicle, so they can tell how many are in it and what they are doing.....this is a huge breach of privacy and yet its not been challeged.

Farmers in this country have been ground down by the eu and by our own governments. For example when we had foot and mouth in the lambs, the government knew it was coming and did nothing to stop it, instead 100's of thousands of lambs had to be slaughtered and the lambing farmers never really recovered from that. Our country for some reason imports beef when we actually export more...does that make any bloody sense, not to me it doesn't

 

[zaferali]

They who control the media controls the world by telling you what, where and how you should do things and it is a tool used by all governments to suit their own aims. You are not allowed to use natural products (weed) why? because the government has no control over it, alcohol you are free to use and there is no limit to the amount, unless you are driving a vehicle, why, because they have total control over it and yet it is more dangerous, regarding food, I remember at one time cat meat was replacing rabbit meat in some restaurants, horse meat was being sold in all butchers shops and yet no one has complained about pigs, they will still be around when all humans will have destroyed themselves and no one will be able to enjoy a bacon sandwich any more.

 

[Charvelx04]

This... my friends, is pork belly.

You can slice it, dice it, quarter it, braze it, BBQ it, filet it, deep fry it, steep it, pressure cook it... or, in Weaser's greatest nightmare... it's smoked and thinly sliced. To deny yourself this ecstasy, is to deny living. Denied by religion? Sorry to say... that's just someone from thousands of years ago saying "YOUR GOD FORBIDS YOU!!" ... and whatnot.

Thing is... pork belly doesn't taste any different then the rest of the pig, unless it's smoked with the wood that flavors the meat/fat combo, making it bacon.

I digress... more for me though.