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Do you use Windows or Linux & why?

DandelionMan77

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So I've been thinking about trying Linux recently but what puts me off is I can't really find too many videos on the likes of YouTube when I type in *(insert game title)* on Linux POP_OS" or something similar. I know Wine has came a long way and is raved about on Linux and j like the concept of open source and increased privacy. However windows just works out of the box and there's some good software for windows that might not be available on Linux.

Example, I sometimes like to dabble with Topaz AI video. There might be an alternative on Linux but I'm unsure.

What OS do you use and why?
 
windows, can't be bothered with messing about lol
That was my main reason originally, however I've got to the point where I'm willing to dabble into it a bit, I've already debloated my windows 11 but I think I want to dabble a bit with Linux. I have 2 PCs and a laptop, i was thinking of using Linux on the PC that isn't my main, to see if I can adapt. And then from there maybe switch on the main.

I know gaming can still be done on Linux however I'm not sure about compatibility for every game, if I wasn't a gamer I'd be Linux for everyday use.
 
I have a huge list of games....some I haven't even started. My mental health prevents me from being interested a lot of the time, time spent here, watching stuff that isn't British (I get bored listening to the same accent all the time, its like going on holiday to another country and end up hearing British people all the time, I just like to get away from it),

You could set up a virtual machine with linux and just have a play with it.

I tried to move from win7 to win10 at the beginning a bit like people jumping on win11 before its had wrinkles sorted out of it. I have eventually moved to win 10, all spyware removed. I probably won't move from this until support is removed.

I have several other pcs but 1 is in the step daughter and my sons bedroom, 1 in our bedroom and 1 downstairs (my pc) and like I said I can't be bothered with messing about with other OS now. Bearing in mind I've gone from using RML380z and 480 computers at school with visual basic to building my own, I've programmed in cecil, learnt cobol etc etc etc
 
So I've been thinking about trying Linux recently but what puts me off is I can't really find too many videos on the likes of YouTube when I type in *(insert game title)* on Linux POP_OS" or something similar. I know Wine has came a long way and is raved about on Linux and j like the concept of open source and increased privacy. However windows just works out of the box and there's some good software for windows that might not be available on Linux.

Example, I sometimes like to dabble with Topaz AI video. There might be an alternative on Linux but I'm unsure.

What OS do you use and why?
Gnu/Linux - TLDR in my Signature)
Why: Gives me the Freedom to take control of every aspect of my operating system. I have complete choice and freedom to make any change. More importantly my whole system excluding games and kernel blobs I am running 100% Opensource machine. Gaming on My distro of choice iI achieve about 7 - 13 extra fps without FSR over Windows due to how efficient Vulcan is over DirectX and this is through a translation layer.

If Gnu/Linux is so good why dont you tell everyone to use it?
Learning curves:
Many Desktop Environments offer a Windows like experience, however it is guaranteed that this would disappoint many new users when it looks like Windows but barely behaves like it.

Terminology
Extra terminology makes researching a starting point difficult. Such as release models and the building blocks of a distro.
EG Windows uses a model called rolling release. On GNU/Linux its encourage for new users to avoid rolling release as like Windows this creates instability - though 10x easier to role back buggy software.

The Elitist's: If you have an issue there is a community that can and will make solving it extremely easy, however you will get force fed 13 different opinions while you at it. They wont just solve your problem they will tell you how they think you should be using "Linux".

Software:
When you find any piece of content telling you "Linux" is ready for desktop usage and you can switch easily swapping Photoshop for Gimp, or MS Office for Libre Office, or OnlyOffice, there is always the left out bit about these are alternatives not drop in replacements. Office does work through WINE, however they won't bring this up due to it not being open source. Many Adobe products like photoshop work through WINE too, though the setup process isn't trivial by any means.

Overall the biggest reason people avoid it is because the community is full of opinionated gasslighters who wont tell it how it is and when 10x opinions say 17 different things, it is likely extremely overwhelming.

EG. A new barrier to entry is the X11 vs Wayland debate.
To some it up to draw objects and windows on your screen you need a display server. X11 is ancient with cobwebs techincial debt and speghetti code, but for the most part "just works" - THe community is currently pushing 85-90% baked software as an alternative many distro's even coming with it as default. This new displayprotocol is supposed to replace X11, though if it were so easy it would have been completed years ago. The issue comes in this protocol says F convenience X11 is like windows and Insecure (Every program can see every other program, exactly the same as on Windows) . Wayland says nope, you need to be secure. And bc of this to make up for the fact that Program Windows cant "see: each other, there is a lot of extra development time and challenges users need to overcome. While you likely won't encounter issues that 1 issue you do encounter might just chase you back to Windows because "security". Yes its harder to write a keylogger for Wayland, but I can they not impossible. Most user aren't going out of their way to install Keyloggers or random software on the internet. You using your trusted Distro repo from your software manager.

TLDR - My signature



Why: Gives me the Freedom to take control of every aspect of my operating system. I have complete choice and freedom to make any change. More importantly my whole system excluding games and kernel blobs I am running 100% Opensource machine. Gaming on My distro of choice iI achieve about 7 - 13 extra fps without FSR over Windows due to how efficient Vulcan is over DirectX and this is through a translation layer.

If Gnu/Linux is so good why dont you tell everyone to use it?
Learning curves:
Many Desktop Environments offer a Windows like experience, however it is guaranteed that this would disappoint many new users when it looks like Windows but barely behaves like it.

Terminology
Extra terminology makes researching a starting point difficult. Such as release models and the building blocks of a distro.
EG Windows uses a model called rolling release. On GNU/Linux its encourage for new users to avoid rolling release as like Windows this creates instability - though 10x easier to role back buggy software.

The Elitist's: If you have an issue there is a community that can and will make solving it extremely easy, however you will get force fed 13 different opinions while you at it. They wont just solve your problem they will tell you how they think you should be using "Linux".

Software:
When you find any piece of content telling you "Linux" is ready for desktop usage and you can switch easily swapping Photoshop for Gimp, or MS Office for Libre Office, or OnlyOffice, there is always the left out bit about these are alternatives not drop in replacements. Office does work through WINE, however they won't bring this up due to it not being open source. Many Adobe products like photoshop work through WINE too, though the setup process isn't trivial by any means.

Overall the biggest reason people avoid it is because the community is full of opinionated gasslighters who wont tell it how it is and when 10x opinions say 17 different things, it is likely extremely overwhelming.

EG. A new barrier to entry is the X11 vs Wayland debate.
To some it up to draw objects and windows on your screen you need a display server. X11 is ancient with cobwebs techincial debt and speghetti code, but for the most part "just works" - THe community is currently pushing 85-90% baked software as an alternative many distro's even coming with it as default. This new displayprotocol is supposed to replace X11, though if it were so easy it would have been completed years ago. The issue comes in this protocol says F convenience X11 is like windows and Insecure (Every program can see every other program, exactly the same as on Windows) . Wayland says nope, you need to be secure. And bc of this to make up for the fact that Program Windows cant "see: each other, there is a lot of extra development time and challenges users need to overcome. While you likely won't encounter issues that 1 issue you do encounter might just chase you back to Windows because "security". Yes its harder to write a keylogger for Wayland, but I can they not impossible. Most user aren't going out of their way to install Keyloggers or random software on the internet. You using your trusted Distro repo from your software manager.

TLDR - My signature
 
You can install Linux into Windows if you want to check it out, or make some system/use between to two, or you can use a VM.



I mainly use Windows for browsing the web etc. Anything to do with websites or hosting I use Linux, Mainly Centos. I like that you only need to install the features you need on linux so it isn't bloated like Windows & doesn't use many resources.
 
Try Linux in a VM first and see if you like it, long gone are the times when Linux was a hassle to get working, try a distro like Linux Mint or Ubuntu and you'll realize that it just works out of the box, while offering way more customization than Windows, and with no crappy spyware pre-installed

Wine nowadays allows you to play most games, and if you play on Steam also check ProtonDB
 
Try Linux in a VM first and see if you like it, long gone are the times when Linux was a hassle to get working, try a distro like Linux Mint or Ubuntu and you'll realize that it just works out of the box, while offering way more customization than Windows, and with no crappy spyware pre-installed

Wine nowadays allows you to play most games, and if you play on Steam also check ProtonDB
I mentioned the VM idea, I think its probably the best option than going full on Linux
 
I use both. Windows 10 on my desktop I game on and then Windows 11 and Linux (Mint) on my laptop.

I couldn't imagine using Linux as the only OS as I've never been able to get Wine working properly. This means on Linux I'm stuck with programs like GIMP instead of Photoshop, which even for small stuff is really frustrating. I like it on the laptop though because I don't need a ton of programs and Linux feels faster/smoother than Windows 10 or 11. Only have Windows on there since on rare occasions I'll be out of town and need to use Windows for something, so it's nice having it as dual-boot (and picked W11 since I was interested in checking it out and figured I use it so rarely that I wouldn't mind if I didn't like it as much as W10).

I believe most Linux OS's allow you to run the OS off of a USB so if you were wanting to give it a basic test you could just make a bootable USB and try Linux that way. I've done that to test out other Linux "flavors" in the past.
 
I use both. Windows 10 on my desktop I game on and then Windows 11 and Linux (Mint) on my laptop.

I couldn't imagine using Linux as the only OS as I've never been able to get Wine working properly. This means on Linux I'm stuck with programs like GIMP instead of Photoshop, which even for small stuff is really frustrating. I like it on the laptop though because I don't need a ton of programs and Linux feels faster/smoother than Windows 10 or 11. Only have Windows on there since on rare occasions I'll be out of town and need to use Windows for something, so it's nice having it as dual-boot (and picked W11 since I was interested in checking it out and figured I use it so rarely that I wouldn't mind if I didn't like it as much as W10).

I believe most Linux OS's allow you to run the OS off of a USB so if you were wanting to give it a basic test you could just make a bootable USB and try Linux that way. I've done that to test out other Linux "flavors" in the past.
My parents PCs both run Linux Mint (themed like Windows 7) and I have Office 2016 cracks for them as they dislike the opensource replacements. Funny how when they using a more stable Operating system I have less tech support phone calls :D
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But yeah mostly what I was saying. Like you can you photoshop on Gnu/Linux, but WINE is not noob friendly in the slightest.
You have alternatives such as gimp but people oversell these alternatives as drop in replacements. Too many are disingenuous when selling people on why its time to switch to Gnu/Linux instead of thinking about it as the end user.

Gaming yes performance is absolutely blasting Windows out of the park, the mere fact that through translation layers you still netting 10 extra fps or more speaks volumes to the technical debt in Windows. This however doesn't mean Windows is going anywhere, bc accessibility wise everyone knows how it works can half figure out how to repartition a hard drive or half figure out how to find a setting in windows settings/ control panel.

Another thing is what motivations are there to move to Gnu/Linux aside from privacy and security?
Both are not nearly enticing enough to the average Joe to try daily drive and inconvenience and frustration of diving head first with no friend, family member or colleague to give you direction or help out when you run into jargon walls.
 
I had my mom on Linux for a while many years ago but she kept having issues with random websites not working correct, or needing a random program (stuff related to video calling with her out-of-town doctors) to work with Linux and it only supported Windows. She did like Linux but it was easier to just go back to Windows. Had her on Linux mostly so things would be faster as her PC was old, so ended up just upgrading my PC and switching her to mine. It's an overkill of a PC for basic use but the stuff would have just sat unused in a cardboard box.
 
Robustpatcher24 is certainly right, about the learning curve.

Linux is extremely flexible, because that's what the main influences need out of Linux. As a user, you are mostly stuck with whatever the developers want. You are not the customer. This also means Linux is not always simple. But because it is flexible, and highly developed, it can be a Desktop/Laptop operating system. And there is nothing wrong with using it that way (I do). But it is a little like using a drone, when all you need is a kite.

Linux is highly contributed to, by people/corporations that fit it for large undertakings. A very slim install of Linux will still "usually" include tons of system admin tools, that most desktop users will never use. Linux has huge amounts of powerful software available. But a large amount of that is not really useful to the average user.

With all of the above in mind, Linux does a pretty good job of being usable, for average users.

With some request for help, from the Linux community, you will be immediately and exactingly helped. Other requests gain some negative kickback, as it is wished you knew more about what you are doing, before you are gladly helped.

I often wondered why a Linux distro doesn't exist, that is primarily centered around WINE. Especially, multiversion WINE support. There is Boxed WINE, for Windows, that includes multiversion WINE support. The main reason, is that different versions of WINE support different Windows applications/games better. I suppose that is a bit off topic. But a WINE centered Linux would go a long way, to helping people "slowly" get used to Linux. Instead of "just" a Linux repo (repository of applications), there could be a Windows application repo. Why should everyone, exploring Linux, need to rediscover how to make a certain application/game work with WINE. This is something that could easily be scripted.

There is no reason not to use Linux. But, don't allow what is possible with Linux, equate to your immediate expectations from Linux. That is where disappointment sets in. I've spent more time then I'd like to have, making Linux do what I want. But the alternative was having less the satisfactory results, or no results at all, on a Windows machine. And that door swings both ways.

I guess the Linux folks always say, use the right tool for the right job. A lot of that is determined by the individual using the tool. If you can handle road bumps and feel you might be up to some digging here and there (blowing off the occasional Linux snob), dig in and develop those problem solving skills. If not, then find what Linux can do for you, right a way, and apply it as such.
 
I run Windows 10 for gaming, video editing/encoding and basic browsing on my desktop. My HTPC is also Windows so that my family doesn't have to fight with it too much.

Other than that, everything else is Linux. Both my personal and work laptops run Kubuntu (KDE <3), my servers are either Debian or Rocky Linux depending on the use case, OpenMediaVault for my NAS, and OpenBSD for my routing/firewalls.

I'm also looking to build a "small" CPU based render farm to off-load the video encoding from my desktop. Which will also be Linux, probably Debian because I'm lazy :P
 
Mainly Windows ( work and games ) , trying to learn macOS (whole universe) and a little linux with docker (comics server).
 
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