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Discussion on the current situation in Iran

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The attacks on Iran, have caused oil prices to go up and that affects ALL of us, with a negative impact. I understand that many of the population are sick and tired of being oppressed by strict Islamic laws.....women who removed their hijabs, were physically and mentally abused openly by the morality police and then they are arrested thrown into a dark hole, if lucky (if you can say that) they are released with only 1 eye. Those that were not lucky will die in prison.

This attack on Iran was unprovoked and I find it difficult to reason with this. As this was an unprovoked attack, Trump is now a war criminal and at the rate he is going, none of us will survive. I feel like he is trying to create WWIII with some of his actions.....Iran, Syria...who is next? Pakistan? I'm tired of all these conflicts some caused by western governments. I said that Starmer should stay out of this and any further conflicts that involve the US. It's time their government went their own way, instead of relying on other countries armed forces to help them.

Anyway, this isn't about the US....this is about Iran.

Iran was a democratic country once upon a time when the west replaced the leader with one that was friends in the west. How exactly did that go? It didn't did it.....he was overthrown and it'll happen time and time again because western ideology DOESN'T work in the middle east and yet they keep trying this sht.

We, in the west, should stay out of middle east conflicts etc it's not our place to put them in their place, it never was.
 
I am starting to get lost in the whirlwind of faceslaps flying around.

Some actually do find the right bloke, but the rest...
 
Iran has been at war with us for 47 years. Once they have long‑range ICBMs and enriched uranium, they are immune from U.S. retaliation. It was now or never. We can endure a little hardship at the gas pump to ensure our future. You can't reason with the mullahs; they left us no choice. They were offered free uranium for nuclear power, and they declined. That tells you the real goal is to ensure their survival, just as North Korea has done, An atomic bomb can fit in a backpack. Mutual deterrence means nothing to a religious ideology that welcomes the apocalypse. In times like these, we need a Donald Trump, not a Kamala Harris or a Joe Biden.
 
You have always got a choice to go stomping over another oil rich country for greed. This has nothing to do with nuclear weapons, it's always been about the oil, just like Afghanistan was, just like Iraq was....I guess I could throw in their heroin too.

Why do you think Trump was trying to push the British government into restarting the production of oil.......Trump has screwed all of us, even those that do not live in the US. Our petrol and diesel prices have shot up all because he wants more oil and if that wasn't the case......why is he thinking about taking over the largest refinery in Iran and opening up the straits. To get the bloody oil. It's not a mystery.....Look at what the US oil companies have done to tar sands in Canada.

The Iranian people will suffer just as much if not more than they did before. Let's take another look at Afghanistan........who did they leave the government to? That's right the very bloody terrorists the west have been fighting for decades. What exactly do you think is going to happen in Iran? Long term conflicts screw the economy of every country involved, it screws with the peoples mentality, it damages employment long term, increases poverty, homelessness, fuels hatred......Last time the west got involved in Iran, the leader was overthrown by the Islamists and it will happen again and again and again. Western politics do not work in Islamic countries and never has. We are worlds apart in our beliefs, our morality etc etc
 
Making war on Iran has long been the most nightmarish move that a republican president can make. It's horrifying that it's happening now. It will not go well for anyone. Iran offered to have no enriched uranium at all, and was attacked anyway. Who would trust the American government at this point? Meanwhile, this is threatening to cause a global economic depression.
 
I believe there are around 4 million pro IRGC/muslims in Iran and the other 86 million are not muslims, cant stand them and want them gone. The IRGC have openly entertained the destuction of America and Israel and have no reason to complain that they are now being wiped out. They have actively taken the country of Irans income and spent it on funding terrorism around the world causing much chaos and death. The fuel price went up the day the war started so from my point was more opportunist - ie an excuse to make a buck in a tight financial world rather than because oil prices rose.

Droid - America is by far the biggest oil producer in the world and have increased production over the last few years. The comment America is invading other countries for oil is a lazy one. They may take control of Irans oil to stop funding the IRGC terrorists but they are certainly not doing all this to "steal" oil.

Not really a Trump fan myself but he IS a strong leader making the neccessary strong decisions needed for the betterment of his country. They have had a succession of weak leaders since 2000's started. Too scared to withdraw funding etc because it might upset someone. America has donated more money than anyone else for many years to many countries and has got little in return. Those countries that have had funding taken away have had over 60 years to work out their own funding and infrastructure ie hospitals, schooling and haven't done it so I don't think you can blame Trump/America for that.

Oh and don't worry about Starmer getting involved - he's hands down one of the weakest Prime Minister's in history and he's self indulgent as well. More chance of a marshmallow getting involved. He'll be gone quicksmart at the next election.
 
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Iran offered to have no enriched uranium at all, and was attacked anyway.

I believe this to be a completely false statement. They now know that they were saying one thing with the negotiators whilst enriching uranium to a certain percentage only used for bombs. No country anywhere in the world wants Iran to have access to nuclear weapons. Iran has spent the last 3 weeks bombing all their "friends" and "allies". Hopefully they will change their tune in regards to Iran although they have been slow about it.
 
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Droid - America is by far the biggest oil producer in the world and have increased production over the last few years. The comment America is invading other countries for oil is a lazy one. They may take control of Irans oil to stop funding the IRGC terrorists but they are certainly not doing all this to "steal" oil.

It's not lazy.....it's true, they do it with underlying issues....1. Oil 2. minerals 3. heroin (mainly afghanistan) - however, the US made deals with the war lords, they gave them information and they could continue their drug and gun movements. 4. To get more power in the middle east.

If trump keeps doing what he is doing there will be a WWIII and billions of people will be dragged into it. He is a war monger....just like most of the previous presidents.

I don't like the British government either for all the domestic struggles they have caused by knee jerk reactions to the "climate change", nope...."climate emergency"....nope "global warming".....oh that's right the new one is "global boiling". Anyway, I digress.....

Pakistan has nukes, North Korea have nukes.....what is the difference because I don't see one. Our Government sent most of our navy to Japan to protect them....leaving us unprotected 👍

I believe this to be a completely false statement. They now know that they were saying one thing with the negotiators whilst enriching uranium to a certain percentage only used for bombs. No country anywhere in the world wants Iran to have access to nuclear weapons. Iran has spent the last 3 weeks bombing all their "friends" and "allies". Hopefully they will change their tune in regards to Iran although they have been slow about it.
1. your belief? So, firstly we need to see PROOF that they are building nukes - which we don't have.

2. I'm sure NK doesn't give a damn about whether Iran has nukes or not

3. they haven't been bombing their "friends or allies", they have been targeting countries that are supporting the US by having their military there....if they were true friends and allies they wouldn't entertain the idea.

4. going back to 1. Trump hasn't attacked NK and yet they are proper enemies of the west and like to fire nukes. Talking of proof, remember the second trip to Iraq, all over WMD's, which were never found to be the case and yet the British government followed the bs information passed on to them
 
Hello,


After 38 days of internet outage, I was finally able to reconnect and read the messages.


I want to share a few points about the situation here in Iran and explain what it's like:


  1. On the very first day after Khamenei was killed, the IRGC carried out a coup and appointed Khamenei's son, Mojtaba, as the new leader.
    Where is Mojtaba now? It's unclear (most likely he is in a coma and dying).
  2. Every night in the streets, scattered across the city, a pickup truck with loudspeakers plays nonsense songs and chants like "I sacrifice my life for the Leader," and a few cars with the current Iranian flag follow it.
    Why? Because the IRGC pays each of them to do this for one hour every night.
  3. Supporters of the IRGC are around 3–4 million people, mostly aged between 50 and 80.
    Why? These are the same people who carried out the revolution and brought Khomeini into the country. The country became filled with clerics, and these people have been completely brainwashed.
  4. Every night in the city, checkpoints are set up where cars are stopped. They check your phone gallery to see if you have photos or videos of the war—if you do, you get arrested.
    Then they check messaging apps to see whether you are connected to the internet—if you are, you can also be arrested for that.

At these checkpoints, you even see children aged 12 to 16 standing with weapons.
Why? Because they are afraid. They stop cars to prevent drone attacks, and they use children so that if something happens, they can claim that the U.S. or Israel killed children.


  1. State TV (IRIB) lies 24/7. Any news you read is presented in the opposite way to their supporters so they don't lose hope.
  2. Strait of Hormuz: Why don't countries like the UK, France, and NATO intervene to reopen it?
    Because the UK and France are the same countries that hosted Khomeini in exile for 15 years and later sent him back to Iran for the revolution. They have benefited financially from the clerical regime over these 47 years.

I see news about how Muslims sent to these countries through the clerical system are spreading and how their security is being threatened.


These countries are concerned about energy prices—they should step in to reopen the strait; otherwise, I see no reason for their inaction.
The people of Iran are extremely angry at the UK and France.


The United States has its own oil, so it is not concerned. In my opinion, it's not really their responsibility if these countries face rising costs—they should handle it themselves and deal with the consequences.


  1. Turkey: Several missiles have been fired toward Turkey so far, but why aren't Turkey and NATO responding? It's obvious—they would lose their position as a major tourism hub if Iran becomes free.

In terms of history and tourism, Iran is far superior to Turkey.


Within the Iranian government, there have been serious conflicts between the current president, Pezeshkian, and Vahidi, the head of the IRGC, because the country should not be under Vahidi's control after the coup.


Why should they not have even the smallest amount of uranium?
Because 2–3 months ago, during protests, they killed 40,000 of their own people in just two days. If they had such power, no country would be safe.


Sorry for the long message, but I live in Iran and felt I had to say this after finally getting connected again after 38 days.


Just know this: you are not in Iran to see the crimes that have been committed over these 47 years. We have seen things that are beyond description. That is why many Iranians feel relief at the attacks against the regime—they see them as less severe than the crimes of the clerics.


To the point that even someone like me, who has just connected to the internet, could be killed for it.


Be certain that when Iran is free, you will hear about crimes that you will not even be able to believe.
 
Absolutely fantastic message Dariush, and most reasonable and rational folks are hoping that peace will soon grace your country and prosperity and freedom will return.

Your country has endured much turmoil and the people deserve the opportunity to be free of an oppressive government, that only works for those in power or seeking to control others.

Please keep us posted and know that the silent majority is desperately hoping that justice will prevail in your struggle.
 
  1. Strait of Hormuz: Why don't countries like the UK, France, and NATO intervene to reopen it?
    Because the UK and France are the same countries that hosted Khomeini in exile for 15 years and later sent him back to Iran for the revolution. They have benefited financially from the clerical regime over these 47 years.
I'll do this one in two. The western governments have benefitted from Iran since they first put a western loving leader, who turned out to be a dictator, was overthrown and then the clerics took over.

The British government are destroying our country from within, we have the north sea oil fields and the British government have closed them down....means we are relying on other countries for our oil now, several years ago it was briefly mentioned on the internet that the UK will end up a third world country and that is exactly what is happening. Poverty and homelessness continues to rise, in the meantime the British government are sending billions to countries with worse pollution than ours. The pollution...we aren't even in the top 15 countries that cause pollution. The labour government and the previous 4 conservative governments haven't given two sheets about us. New EU agreement made keeping us inline with their rules, regs and laws (something the majority of the British voted against) - when all we wanted was free trade without being penalised, new agreement with the ECHR, signing the net zero agreement, signing the freedom of movement agreement - which in essence means 3rd world people can move more freely in the countries that signed it....and the British Isles is where they seem to end up. Paying France billions to stop the illegal immigrants (as defined in British law, yes that's right it's in the law and multiple governments have broken that law) and did they NOPE. They are still letting them cross now......still giving out money to other countries, robbing the British public and it doesn't matter if you're on a pension, disabled or even terminally ill children. They have given in to US trade department aka big pharma by agreeing that the NHS has to buy the medications at retail price, this will cause multiple issues for patients. The UK has gone to the dogs and is being run by Totalitarians....they don't care who they steal money from as long as you do as you are told. This is not a Pagan nor Christian country anymore......17% of the population are Islamic, 0.5% is jewish and yet all our supermarkets sell halal slaughtered meats without any labels on and a lot of people are up in arms about it. 17.5% of the population dictating to the other 82.5%....madness.

Honestly, if I was an immigrant or a refugee....I would not come to the UK....you might get a couple of nights in a hotel with everything paid for and then, well, house building efforts are gaining speed but for some reason the homeless are still going up.

I was in contact with a group on facebook and they were the women who wanted freedom for their hair....I've heard the horror stories, seen some of the photos of the "authorities" handy work and if that's how they treat women, they deserve to be liquidated without prejudice or as the famous words go......round them all up in a field and bomb the bastards!

I want to see the Iranian people freed from the cleric dictators, I just worry that if it doesn't happen the Iranian people are going to suffer even more than they have been, I know that will take some beating but I'm sure the clerics will dream up even more medieval and primitive torture.



@Dariush Keep your head down, keep safe and tell your friends to do the same...last thing you need to do is disappear never to be seen again. It's good that you can keep us up to date, when you can. I was hoping that opening this thread will get you to partake, I'm sure there are others here that live in Iran but maybe not want to take the risk.


Reading newspapers causes bias thoughts about whatever the political picnic, it is trying to present. Word of mouth is far better
 
@Dariush thank you for your brave comments. we all hope you are safe and get back to posting great content.


Iran has been lying to the world and supporting terrorists for 47 years. the regime declares death to Israel and the US. Trump is the only president that had the balls to attack Iran and destroy their capability to launch attacks. many Americans and Israelis have been killed by the regime.
NATO is a feckless org and is now useless. the US should withdraw it's support and halt all funding. now we know Iran has the capability of long range missile attacks. they have been attacking countries in the region.
most of the Iranian leaders and many IRGC militants have been eliminated and the people must take back their country. as Dariush said thousands have been killed by the IRGC.
if Iran did possess a nuke they would not hesitate to use it on Israel. anyone trusting Iran is nieve. they have proven to the world that they can't be trusted. Iran's capability to wage jihad is coming to an end.
America saved Europe in 2 world wars and now we stand with Israel to defeat Iran, without the support of countries that "WE" saved.
there is no doubt that the IRGC will be defeated and the Iranian people will get their country back.
the dems in the US are attacking Trump for launching this war. even though past presidents and members of congress are on record saying that Iran must be stopped.
the only ally America can depend upon is Israel, the rest are worthless. why are the libs not protesting the thousands of Iranian's being slaughtered by the IRGC? instead they have ridiculous "NO KING" protests.
the EU and NATO are no longer allies of the US.
i support the total destruction of the IRGC and the regime. i also support our president.

this is why the EU and UK will not support Trump

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@Dariush posted this as the IRGC began slaughtering it's citizens
this is the truth in Iran

 
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