Nuclear Threat?

[NavyRet]

Now Satan's right-hand-puppet has made sure the West and NATO knows Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal on earth. So I'm guessing this MF-er is the anti-Christ and this is the beginning of the end. As I've always said, I hope I'm at ground zero here in Minneapolis.

On another note, Russia is now holding the staff at Chernobyl hostage and are in control of the nuclear facility.

Ukraine has 15 other active nuclear power plants. Use your imagination.

 

[Weaserlorian]

I was thinking “Nuclear Threat” last night. When he said in his speech “Interference in our affairs and you feel the rath the likes you have never seen in your lifetime” what else could he have meant by that. It has to mean Nuclear attack.

 

[Charvelx04]

Pretty much.

Bear in mind, however, that the "likes you've never seen" just isn't Putin and the bombs that may or not make it to their targets..., it's the counter-attack that will make sure we're sent back to the stone age. He knows full well he won't survive his tactics if anyone else gets involved because it will escalate too fast for anyone to pull back or reverse course. He knows his country will glow in the dark for thousands of years.. and that's against anyone's goals, but don't put it past him to probably detonate at least one... it's then, the world will take a dump on him.

 

[Weaserlorian]

Dam man it’s a scary thought for my grandkids

 

[EMS]

I predicted this Russian full on invasion when they invaded the submarine base, I warned people that a communist doesn't change his spots...he did it long enough to be able to build up the Russia forces and get finance behind them by fooling the western countries. China have done the same thing, sanctions against china would only make us suffer. A bit like sanctions against Russia, do you really think stopping Putin by freezing assets is going to make any difference, nope not one. What should have happened was that Ukraine was made part of western Europe as most if not all the population see themselves as European but no, not one country lifted a finger to help them. We had time when the Russian forces were beyond the border, nothing was done, same goes for this full on invasion

 

[zaferali]

there are two sides to every coin, what happened when N:A:T:O. invaded Yugslavia, Iraq, Libya and Afganistan, where were the sanctions? there were not any as it is the invaders who give out the sanctions and they would not sanction themselves, there are over 80 countries with American bases in them, as far as I know the Russians are in Syria at the goverments request. The war machine earns big money for the western countries and they want this to continue. The UN was formed to solve problems after WW2, now it helps to promote them. It is the people in the street who have to pay for all this and when they complain by protests they are beaten and sent to prison or penalised in other ways. what is justice? justice is in the hand that holds the gun.

 

[NavyRet]

There may be two sides to every coin, but Putin's side is evil, wrong and insane. Anyone who thinks Russia is within their rights is just as insane as he is. Take Trump for example (yes, please take him). He does nothing but praise Putin as some kind of phucking genius and Trump is nuttier than a damn fruitcake. There may well be two sides, but personally, I ain't interested in having anything to do with Putin's side or his little puppet Trump's side.​

 

[zaferali]

there is good and bad in every one, if you destroy my house are you a good person? you say yes because you do not like me or my house, I say you are a bad person because you have destroyed my house and my family. this is human nature a person thinks of himself first and then others if they can be beneficial to them. What Bush and Blair did to Iraq under false pretenses was good for some , but for the ordinary people living there it was hell and they had to pay for it and they still do. we all want to blame some one other than ouırselves for our mistakes. will it ever change? never, because it is human nature to distroy things we do not understand or like.

 

[zaferali]

I have just thought of an example. I do not like cats, why? because they come into my garden and kill my chickens, so now I kill them when they come, am I right or wrong?

 

[EMS]

I have just thought of an example. I do not like cats, why? because they come into my garden and kill my chickens, so now I kill them when they come, am I right or wrong?

Protecting your food source is as important as anything else but that isn't what Putin is doing, Putin is in the middle of a hostile take over of Ukraine which most Ukrainians nor the government want. They don't want to be communist again, they don't want someone else telling them what they can and can't do for the rest of their lives. What putin is doing is war on a peaceful country that doesn't not belong to Russia......and when will it stop? First Ukraine and then what Poland? Hungary? East Germany? He won't stop because he knows that Europe is too scared of him to face him in a face on battle and lengthy war.

Most of our ships are out protecting Japan ffs and everywhere else because like the US we can not keep our f..king noses out of other peoples business...Afghanistan, Iraq x 2, Syria....They aren't our problem...western ideology has never fitted in with the middle east but we kept interfering and now we are paying the price....

I'm tired of it as am most people.......it seems the general population can get on fine....its just governments and CIA that want to have MORE war, MORE terrorism, MORE illegals invading, MORE kiddy fiddlers. When is it going to stop, when the western populations are all but wiped out thanks to our governments stupidity and lack of foresight? Maybe, this is all one big plan to reverse previous history and replace it with a more dangerous ideology, which will come back to bite them, when our countries are ruled by Sharia law...perhaps then they will realise how f...king stupid they were but by that time it would be too late to reverse it. If you don't think that's true, take a look at the population of London for example. White British have been in the minority for years. London being the epicentre of government, we already have a mayor of london who is racist against the white british population and is causing MORE divide with the trans community. He has earmarked millions for a trans ONLY block of apartments, they want to be accepted as a part of everyday life not locked up in a block of flats. That's not INCLUSION that's EXCLUSION. That there causes more divide and anger that trans people get special attention where the rest of the population get shat on.

When people say "2 wrongs don't make a right", I have pointed out to those people, so what you're saying is that those that commit the wrong the first time round should be what let off? Not made to feel guilty for what they have done. When you give this sort of leeway to people, they have got away with it and therefore can do the same or much worse next time? Yeah not for me, if someone does something wrong punishment has to be dealt out, not forgiven and let them get away with it or worse again, that's how some murderers, rapists, child abusers, con people get away with so much. They were given a free pass...2 wrongs don't make a right, bugger that. Punishment should meet the crime not allowed to get away with it

 

[zaferali]

we all have our grievences for one thing or another it is part of our daily lives and we have to solve them the best we can with what we have but some things we cannot solve and leave it to others who have the means, then it is out of our control and that is when other problems accure and some times gets out of hand. Self defence, what is it? do you have to carry a hand gun around with you? what are you defending? there are American military camps all over the EU and the UK, why? how many European military camps are there in the US? who is afraid of who? it is all out of balance, there are about 500? people controling millions of lives and any maniac/fanatic can press the button to get rid of them, it is the millions who want piece not war, but it is the 500 who want war not piece.

 

[NavyRet]

Firstly, it's peace, not piece. Secondly, the US bases are there at the request of those countries' respective governments for the protection of NATO countries from exactly what Putin is doing to Ukraine. If Putin invades a NATO country, NATO will respond militarily with the combined military of all the NATO countries. If the US didn't have those bases, NATO and all of Europe would have to wait for the US to mobilize troops and transport them and their equipment from the US to Europe, all while Hitler (er I mean Putin) continues his advance through Europe.

So choose, do you want US bases to help immediately when your country is invaded or do you want to fight the invaders on your own and hope we get there in time to save you?​

 

[Charvelx04]

Putin knows better.

From recent news, I hear that Ukrainians are holding off the invaders near their capitol. So.. adding to that, and even though Russia have "numbers" when it comes to equipment, Putin knows their military would be wiped off the map in a standard war. What's he gonna do... try to fight everyone when it's only winter time?

He's seen what happens when we've been attacked. Swift deployment, rapid bombardment from up close and from the water. Russia is literally surrounded on all sides...and without nukes to threaten everyone, he's nothing more than a cheap bully with too many toys to play with.

Watching what was built up around the borders, our A10 pilots backed by a few fighter craft to hold off those cheap ass Migs... would have taken all but half a week to take out all those tanks and support craft. Including the trains they used to bring troops in. Look at Russia on the map.. he has no where to go if we were to do the same to him. If his subs are all at home, we could easily cut them off before they got into open water. Their planes would barely leave the runways before missiles from destroyers and carriers took them out.

Think Cuban missile crisis. USSR wanted to park some nukes not but three minutes off our back porch, and that didn't go over well at all. Putin wants that too... he wants the USSR back, so that he's not vulnerable on all sides like he is.

Truth be told.. it will be interesting to see who gets a hold of him first. NATO... or his own people.

Putin... like so many others, Trump included.. think the world needs to be run with an iron fist... and that the only way to prosper is to have a single hierarchy that leaves them at the top of that tower. He would never understand that to get what you want, you have to give as well.

He just wants to take.

 

[Weaserlorian]

You would be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks what Putin is doing is right. Not even his own people thinks it’s right. He has been in power for 22 years and 5 US presidents and has nothing accomplished so this is one reason he’s doing this.

 

[zaferali]

how many countries has Russia and China invaded since the WW2? how many countries has the US with help from others (N:A:T:O.) invaded since WW2? yet today both Russia and China are the bad guy's, why? (do what I say not what I do), then you are a good guy, both Russia and China did what the US wanted and they benefited from it, now they differ on certain things and now the ( International Comunity) that is the US says that they are bad guys, the US uses the $ as a weapon now, sanctions. using this weapon affects millions of innocent people who do not want war but have to pay for it. Everyone thinks they are right and if they have the power they will want to prove it, because they do not have the mentality to think otherwise, for a road that makes everyone happy and satisfied. ( sorry if there are any spelling mistakes, my keyboard likes to protest at times)

 

[DammagedAgain]

I was thinking “Nuclear Threat” last night. When he said in his speech “Interference in our affairs and you feel the rath the likes you have never seen in your lifetime” what else could he have meant by that. It has to mean Nuclear attack.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-27-22/h_4a1ba9fdfd7be4f72967c82918a4c21b

 

[zaferali]

why is it, that the powers that be never protest about what is happening in Yemen and the Gaza Strip, sorry maybe no one has ever heard of the people living there and the conditions they have to live in. if so? how can you protest.

 

[Weaserlorian]

Nothing would surprise me at this point. I know this man is capable of doing anything.

 

[EMS]

why is it, that the powers that be never protest about what is happening in Yemen and the Gaza Strip, sorry maybe no one has ever heard of the people living there and the conditions they have to live in. if so? how can you protest.

I've expressed my disagreement with a lot of what has happened to the Palestinians. First western powers did a land grab for the Jewish people to settle in, those same jewish people got rid of the table of 9 or 12 or whatever it was, they kept the government from going to far and they would have been the ones that put the constitution together. If a country and people of that country have no constitution, they aren't a country. Then the Israeli government, created a no go zone, demolished all the palestinian homes in that area, left it baron for a while and then built homes on it for the Israelis to move into. Whilst all this is going on the Israeli and Palestinian leaders have a desalination plant that is joint owned. Its a bit like Pakistan and India....they are warring over Kashmir a worthless piece of mountainous territory, whilst this is going on India are giving Pakistan not just the money we give India in aid but they lump a few million on top.

So, they are financing a war from both sides, how on earth does that make any sense at all.

What should happen is that foreign aid should be stopped, all that happens is the wealthier countries give them money and then it all gets written off as bad debt.....we, the general public pay for that out of our taxes and its wasted on others that really don't give a flying f..k about our countries. Inda and China are two of the wealthiest governments about and you don't see them dipping their hand in their pockets to help others? No you don't, they look after their money and they look after ours as well and for a country that has a nuclear arsenal, I see absolutely no reason why they should be funded by our tax, when we have homeless, poverty, and all the rest here in our own country. I believe in charity begins at home.

 

[zaferali]

any aid that is given has to be repaid in one form or other, aid is not cash, it is goods produced by the countries giving aid and today it is usually weapons or in Africa they are given out of date medicine, which has to be repaid in full. if they refuse to repay ,then the International Community is told that they are massing weapons of mass destruction (nuclear warheads) and have to be eliminated, so saving the world from distruction.
China uses a different method in Africa, it builds on a countries infrastructure, roads. hospitals, airports railways and anything else that the people need, they are investing, they are not sending weapons, they get support from the people .

 

[EMS]

any aid that is given has to be repaid in one form or other, aid is not cash, it is goods produced by the countries giving aid and today it is usually weapons or in Africa they are given out of date medicine, which has to be repaid in full. if they refuse to repay ,then the International Community is told that they are massing weapons of mass destruction (nuclear warheads) and have to be eliminated, so saving the world from distruction.
China uses a different method in Africa, it builds on a countries infrastructure, roads. hospitals, airports railways and anything else that the people need, they are investing, they are not sending weapons, they get support from the people .

I will agree to disagree. You see, at multiple G7 meetings, they have all agreed to write off foreign aid debts. Yes, China has support of the people, until the people realise what china is actually doing, they will call in their debts whenever they feel like it and the African governments will pay, believe you me, they will pay.

 

[NavyRet]

Gettin' a bit off topic folks. This was about Putin's nukes.

 

[Dr Pickles]

I'll be offline for the next three weeks - headed to Switzerland for work.

 

[DammagedAgain]

Gettin' a bit off topic folks. This was about Putin's nukes.

 

[zaferali]

what Putin is trying to tell you in the caption above is "you can nuke me any time and any place"

 

[buzz]

I am waiting for the day when the Russian army.... to just stop and put down the guns.. It happened in what 1917 and that ended the rule of the Czars and started the beginning of present day Communism.
He may be a mad man, but his fighters may not be mad like him. After all, they are going to kill the same people they call comrades.
Ground to ground, building to building fighting will never work in the big citys....they will need an army forever to police the area....no real end game like that..

 

[Weaserlorian]

I am waiting for the day when the Russian army.... to just stop and put down the guns.. It happened in what 1917 and that ended the rule of the Czars and started the beginning of present day Communism.
He may be a mad man, but his fighters may not be mad like him. After all, they are going to kill the same people they call comrades.
Ground to ground, building to building fighting will never work in the big citys....they will need an army forever to police the area....no real end game like that..

Reports are some soldiers are just as mad as Putin and some feel sympathy like we do. But in the end if the finger is on the Nuclear button none of this will matter.

 

[zaferali]

Whoever presses the nuclear buttons (there are more than one) who will benefit? remember Germany and Japan, they were defeated by bombs and the atomic bomb. today they are on the top of the worlds economy, but it was the normal people in the street who had to pay for it with their lives. It is good if it suıts you and bad if it does not. The UN is there to stop wars not start them, what is it doing now?

 

[Weaserlorian]

No one benefits from Nuclear War LOL

 

[DammagedAgain]