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How to tell lossless from lossy.(Music talk)

This is a great thread. I noticed there's one subject that hasn't really been mentioned that's kind of a big thing for me personally, compression.
Not the compression relating to file size but the compression of the audio content within the file.
The following is just my personal opinion as someone who spent a few years working with audio, your mileage may vary.
My preference for my digital archives is to be in uncompressed full dynamic range FLAC format (A good 320k mp3 also makes the grade). I want my source to always be as clean and fully dynamic as possible.
The lower the file's quality the worse the high end sounds to me, things like cymbal work, sibilance, and so on take on a crunchy almost distorted quality.
If I need to compress or convert to mp3 for different listening environments where clarity isn't critical or file size is an issue I like to be able to control that myself.
I've tossed many a download in the recycle bin after giving them a listen and looking at the wave form. To me there's no point in having a FLAC of even a 320k mp3 file if it's been
crushed into oblivion, that's like putting lipstick and perfume on a pig. A smaller 160-256k will suffice until I find a better source.
To me an over compressed /maximized what ever you want to call it file has a very over saturated flat papery sound and lacks depth, much like FM radio transmissions.
I don't want to waste time going into the specifics of compression here but this page has a good explanation on the basics if you're unfamiliar >
Code:
https://blog.landr.com/how-to-use-a-compressor/
Here's a screen grab of a Beatles song, one is what I'd call over compressed the other is not compressed at all.
As you can see there's a big difference which very noticeably translates into what you hear regardless if it's a lossless high bitrate or a lossy lower bitrate file.

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Anyway, this is just my 2 cents worth, I'm not meaning to offend, criticize, or complain, in the end it's all about personal preference.
I just thought it might be a good subject for a music related thread.
Party on Garth :band:
 
I don't like FLAC for one main reason......they take up too much space.. Mp3 320kbs is fine for me, although I use creative 5.1 speakers through a soundblaster card, that's fine for me.
 
I don't like FLAC for one main reason......they take up too much space.. Mp3 320kbs is fine for me, although I use creative 5.1 speakers through a soundblaster card, that's fine for me.

This is good but if you want the real music, flac is the way.
While I may upload music in mp3, I try to get all in flac as they are the best quality.
I like a good mp3 @ 32o but in my head I know I can do better.

As I get older I must admit 320 mp3 is good enough.
But I still want proper flac files for my archives.
 
I don't like FLAC for one main reason......they take up too much space..

Yes they do take up more space, no argument about that. I only keep FLAC downloads that I think are worth having a FLAC copy of for that reason.
Honestly I'd rather have a 320K or even a 256K MP3 in full dynamic range than a FLAC that's been compressed and crushed into oblivion.
FLAC is just my preference for a well done rip particularly if the program material has a wide dynamic range like classical or something like Pink Floyd and other rock with subtle passages like Since I Been Loving You by Zeppelin - You can hear Bonham's kick drum pedal squeaking. Did I mention I'm a Led head? :D
That high frequency crunchy distorted sound I mentioned before draws my ear like a magnet and is like nails on a blackboard to me particularly in a quiet environment like at home.
I'm not nearly as critical and don't mind some compression on tracks loaded on a flash drive for my car stereo. It actually helps make quieter things more easily heard over the road noise and my exhaust.
Yeah I know, sounds a bit OCD but I can't help it. :geek: :laff:
 
Nah that's not OCD, that's just beig accepting of good music that hasn't had the shite ripped out of it. We all get that, I'm not too fussy about dynamic range, I put music on for 2 main reasons, 1 to blow off some steam or when I'm driving....so either way a full dynamic range isn'y really going to wreck my day....
 
I don't like FLAC for one main reason......they take up too much space.. Mp3 320kbs is fine for me, although I use creative 5.1 speakers through a soundblaster card, that's fine for me.
WAV takes even more space than FLAC almost double in fact. The files are technically the same yet I still prefer WAV, not bothered about artwork and artist info and its more universally compatible than FLAC
I usually go between WAV and MP3 320kbps then FLAC
 

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