National Security

[zaferali]

National Security, many people use these words, but what do they mean? are some people using them to make money? Or, should they be changed to International Security, where more damage to life and property are caused through natural elements, such as, rain, wind. snow and draught etc.

 

[zaferali]

as I thought not many people are interested in the above, the majority of people are only interested in one security and that is their own, and that leaves plenty of room for discussion.

 

[EMS]

as I thought not many people are interested in the above, the majority of people are only interested in one security and that is their own, and that leaves plenty of room for discussion.

Actually that's not true people are interested in "national" security, I think it depends on how you word the title and how you word the main body of information.

Do you mean organisations like CIA, FBI, NSA, M15, M16, etc etc etc? Because its well known that the CIA don't do security, they fund what will end up as terrorism. Saddam Hussein had connections to CIA, Al Qaida have a connection to CIA, most of the local warlords in Afghanistan and Iraq during the "wars", who traffic drugs to the US and they are left to get through. Where do you think it all started...The CIA brought drugs into the run down areas because of their dealings with those who fight the US, Mugabe is friends with the CIA and look at what he's done to the white folk that provide all the fresh food for export to make Mugabe rich, then he organises all the ex soldiers to get rid of the white folk by any means necessary, they were promised the properties and land, they got sod all for it. Mugabe gave them all to friends and people in government.

Governments and their departments cause division by fear and threat of security. People are pushed to believe that Jihad means to kill your enemies blah blah blah....well that version isn't the true version of the Quran. The true version is that Jihad means personal struggles, that doesn't mean war with others...it means things like issues in the marriage, issues with work, temptation etc etc. This is why everything is messed up, some muslims are taught the violent vengeful Quran and some are taught the "be nice to your fellow man".

Our government has written in law that no one can come into the uk without ID, they throw their ID away before they get here but the government still lets them in without ID...that's a national security issue because no one knows who these fighting age men have really come from...did some of them come from IS, Al Qaida, saddams loyalist guard (the children of), we shouldn't be going into their countries trying to force our western ways, its wrong and dangerous because too many people who are taught the vengeful islam will want to take revenge.

Our governments are no better....

 

[Charvelx04]

National Security, here... or the words therein, have different levels of flavor and tend to get tossed around depending on an individual's, much less an organisation's, true agenda.

It doesn't take much, in religion or politics, to use scare tactics. Do we need security? Sure... but mostly from within our own borders...and as The Droid pointed out, any means in which people cross borders for reasons leaning towards anti-socialism. Basically, nearly all the statistics point towards you getting into a dangerous situation with your neighbor, or a drunk driver.. than you will just because another comes to your country looking for a new life.

But using "security" to bend the minds of those who simply choose to follow because it takes little to no effort, is more dangerous than what I just posted above. For over 50 years, I've been able to communicate with others... worked with others, and not once... not ever, have I heard the words "that person from so and so, stole my job". However, certain people love to shove it in your face that they already have, or will soon enough... leaving you to fend for yourselves as if we're all living with the walking dead.

That in and of itself, is a national security concern. It's far too dangerous to leave someone on a soapbox screaming, that if they don't get into a position of power, your life... your life, will take a turn towards a miserable ending. People making their way to the top, creating useless and fake fear. The real problem?

It works.

 

[EMS]

You hear that occasi

"that person from so and so, stole my job".

I've heard that a few times in my life, my reply to it is, if you were good at your job you wouldn't be replaced or they are in poverty and don't understand that it is the governments that cause the division.

 

[zaferali]

Humans always have been unpredictable and always will be, the basics are the same for every one, only the conditions are different, just like the weather . Winter is slowly turning into Summer and some thing will be found to blame for it after the damage has been done. If you destroy my house it would be natural for me to come and want to live in yours.

 

[EMS]

Winters aren't turning into summer....that is very over dramatical. Our winters fluctuate based on multiple things, the orbit around the sun, the wobbly on the axis. We had "amber alert warnings" for what happened to be an inch of snow ffs....this is only for the snowflakes. We have had snow in April, its no big deal. Nothing has changed, sea levels have risen many times over, just look at all the ruins that are under the sea now. Everyone is so worried about climate change that they are chopping down more trees...how does that work then.

 

[zaferali]

Nature has it's own rules and always finds a balance whatever humans may do to try and change them, the USA is attacked by floods, snow storms, cyclones and fire and many homes are destroyed and lives lost and nothing can be done about it, there is no security against the weather and never will be, national or international.

 

[EMS]

The sahara used to be green and lush before the earth tipped on its axis. Egypt's Nile used to be higher, there are new barrier reefs in other parts of the world and not just Australia's...which isn't dying, its actually thriving. Everything you have been told is to condition you to their way of thinking. Take MSM for example.....they all have their own political agenda and people need to see through it. There are other ways to help mother earth and chopping down more trees is not how its done, that's just stupidity at its best, you know what's worse than chopping down trees? Chopping down trees so they can put a cycle path there! We need the trees and its not just for the oxygen we breathe, it helps with stopping the soil from getting water logged (so flooding then)..yep. They help bind the soil which helps other plants, insects etc. Its not just a natural CO2 scrubber. We are only guests on mother earth but some people seem to think they own it and can do whatever they want with it. Then, blame it on climate change/crisis/global warming, force us off the road or pay through the nose to travel, which will be upgraded to being charged per mile. Forcing us to give up fossil fuel powered cars for cars that are just as bad, not just pollution but the miners are getting sick from mining the ore to produce the batteries, whilst they fly around the world on private jets. Here's an idea and it has been proven to work, why don't the leaders of the countries around the world, go back to vid conferencing, it worked during covid when the aeroplanes were grounded. However, they are the ones ruining the atmosphere and then we have to pay for it. Yeah, nah, I didn't sign up to WEF. Take it all away and you're be happier! BS

 

[Rickkins]

as I thought not many people are interested in the above, the majority of people are only interested in one security and that is their own, and that leaves plenty of room for discussion.

I suspect most people care about national security to one degree or the other. Many tho may simply think that the issue(s) are really too complicated to do much about on a personal level...

 

[Weaserlorian]

Of course National Security is important. Unfortunately it's over most of the populations pay grade and this is the reason why we vote.

 

[NavyRet]

I vote for a "chicken in every pot and a car in every backyard".

 

[Weaserlorian]

Check under your seat!

I vote NavyRet for President and Canadian Prime Minister!

 

[NavyRet]

I accept your vote and the first thing I will do if elected is drop a frozen chicken on Pootin's head from 10,000 feet.

 

[Rickkins]

I accept your vote and the first thing I will do if elected is drop a frozen chicken on Pootin's head from 10,000 feet.

While yer there, if you could take care of that Prigozhin fella at the same time, well that would be swell...

 

[EMS]

I would say do that to the NK but his sister is even more fanatical than he is

 

[zaferali]

I would say do that to the NK but his sister is even more fanatical than he is

The world is full of fanatics, that is why we have the troubles that we are having at the moment, will it change? never, because each new generation starts from zero, the past is found only in museums which very few people frequent, as most of the time they are living in a dream world and that is when the fanatics take over. Is a person who knowingly destroys his own country and people a fanatic? some would say yes and others would say no, but one thing is certain and that is there is no national security there or it would not have happened.

 

[EMS]

The world is full of fanatics, that is why we have the troubles that we are having at the moment, will it change? never, because each new generation starts from zero, the past is found only in museums which very few people frequent, as most of the time they are living in a dream world and that is when the fanatics take over. Is a person who knowingly destroys his own country and people a fanatic? some would say yes and others would say no, but one thing is certain and that is there is no national security there or it would not have happened.

We have troubles because the CIA are terrorists as friends that creates a very unsecure world.

 

[Dr Pickles]

Talk about off (an overly broad) topic...

 

[EMS]

Talk about off (an overly broad) topic...

Says the troll

 

[Weaserlorian]

LOL

 

[zaferali]

which ever way you look at security, national, international or self, it is some thing that humans need as well as many other forms of life, the seas cover most of the globe, but without them there would be no life on earth, the sun working together with them gives us what we need to live , water and food. The natural elements become angry at times to show humans what power they have and humans show what power they have and that is nothing,

 

[EMS]

which ever way you look at security, national, international or self, it is some thing that humans need as well as many other forms of life, the seas cover most of the globe, but without them there would be no life on earth, the sun working together with them gives us what we need to live , water and food. The natural elements become angry at times to show humans what power they have and humans show what power they have and that is nothing,

You didn't mention OXYGEN, which is produced by plants that use CO2. This is why it is so important to buck the net zero emissions nonsense because its based on CO2 not NOX. NOX is far more dangerous for us. However, our government chop down trees for bicycle paths

 

[Dr Pickles]

 

[Charvelx04]

I've heard that a few times in my life, my reply to it is, if you were good at your job you wouldn't be replaced or they are in poverty and don't understand that it is the governments that cause the division.

I've heard that on the manufacturing floor, and even watching people stab each other in the back trying to grab the next rung on the corporate ladder. But, as you say.. "govt cause division", is exactly where I hear it most often. Republicans screaming from every corner of the Capitol, claiming the country is being overrun by job stealing immigrants, and I don't see it. I see it when they're here and not working... just as I see no one born in this country (other than family farms) running to the fields because they'd love to spend the days in hot summer heat, picking tomatoes, avocadoes.. whatever it is.

Not a one. But, they're voting for leaders who claim jobs are being stolen. That's the threat.... and if Navy is our next Pres, this country needs an enema... so maybe we can take a few billion from the Pentagon's budget of massage chairs and lobster brisk lunches, and start giving out free colon cleanings for anyone who still claims white supremacy is the drum in which we all need to march.

I vote for a "chicken in every pot and a car in every backyard".

I vote for chicken, pot, having a decent car and campfires in the backyard.

 

[EMS]

Pot tasting like chicken? no no no although at least you can say you had veg and protein lol

 

[zaferali]

You didn't mention OXYGEN, which is produced by plants that use CO2. This is why it is so important to buck the net zero emissions nonsense because its based on CO2 not NOX. NOX is far more dangerous for us. However, our government chop down trees for bicycle paths

Trees need water in more ways than one, how many forest fires have there been over the last year around the globe? Now you can feel happy riding your bicycle down the paths made by the government, as the wood can be used to keep some people warm during the cold days as other energy forms seem to be in short supply or too expensive,

 

[EMS]

Now you can feel happy riding your bicycle down the paths made by the government

Have you ever seen a droid using a bicycle, whilst knowingly partaking in the systematic cut down of trees. There aren't enough trees lining our roads because they are being ripped up for cyclists...I wonder how much pollution is expelled by the vehicles needed, petrol filled chainsaws, to go around and cut down all the trees and then how much pollution is caused by creating cycle paths where previously we had trees. That I consider to be a security threat to the people of this country.

 

[Weaserlorian]

Our Droid can do a lot more than ride bicycle LOL

OK this thread is wayyyyyyyy off topic, let's try and get back on track here.

National Security, many people use these words, but what do they mean? are some people using them to make money? Or, should they be changed to International Security, where more damage to life and property are caused through natural elements, such as, rain, wind. snow and draught etc.

 

[zaferali]

Our Droid can do a lot more than ride bicycle LOL

OK this thread is wayyyyyyyy off topic, let's try and get back on track here.

I beg to differ, as our friend The Droid is thinking about the security of the trees and the pleasure that they give to our lives, as I mentioned before all forms of life need some form of security. Just like the Amazon basin.